Heads will roll: AI means PANIC.

[Mild Shock]

Hi,

At least John Sowa is not panicing when
he bashes LLM. Here is another video by him,
where he pulls all registers:

Without Ontology LLMs are Clueless by JohnSowa

One could adopt his stance, including spreading
rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
LLMs do also represent ontologies.

Just make a test, take any of John Sowas drawings:

https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/

Now ask ChatGPT:

Q: give me an overview of the beverages
that humans consume

A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
broadly categorized based on their preparation,
ingredients, and purpose. Here’s an overview:

1. Water
[...]
2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
a. Hot Beverages
[...]
b. Cold Beverages
[...]
3. Alcoholic Beverages
[...]
4. Functional Beverages
[...]
5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
[...]
6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
[...]

These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
and social interaction.

Woa!

Bye

[Mild Shock]

The ontology by John Sowa has an easter egg.
Champagne is both sparkling and alcoholic. But
ChatGPT disagrees with John Sowa, since the ontology
of ChatGPT is slightly differently organized. There
is no individual sparkling category, there is a
subcategory among non-alcoholic

which is sparkling, so it doesn’t want
Champagn belong to it:

Q: Is champagne a soft drink?

A: No, champagne is not a soft drink. It is a type
of sparkling wine made from specific grape varieties
and produced using a traditional method (méthode champenoise)
in the Champagne region of France. Champagne is an
alcoholic beverage, while soft drinks are non-alcoholic
beverages, typically carbonated and often sweetened,
like sodas or colas.

The John Sowa example ontology is said to have been
data mined, since he writes: “The formal concept analysis
(FCA) techniques belong to the general class of data mining
procedures, which find patterns in a relational database.”

It seems ChatGPT uses other data sources and/or data
mining techniques to get their ontologies.

Post by Mild Shock
Hi,
At least John Sowa is not panicing when
he bashes LLM. Here is another video by him,
Without Ontology LLMs are Clueless by JohnSowa
http://youtu.be/t7wZbbISdyA
One could adopt his stance, including spreading
rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
LLMs do also represent ontologies.
https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/
Q: give me an overview of the beverages
that humans consume
A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
broadly categorized based on their preparation,
1. Water
[...]
2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
a. Hot Beverages
[...]
b. Cold Beverages
[...]
3. Alcoholic Beverages
[...]
4. Functional Beverages
[...]
5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
[...]
6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
[...]
These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
and social interaction.
Woa!
Bye

[Moebius]

Am 06.01.2025 um 19:10 schrieb Mild Shock:

Wenn Du glaubst, dass irgendjemand Deine unzähligen Postings liest, dann
muss ich Dir leider mitteilen ... dass das stimmt. :-)

Post by Mild Shock
The ontology by John Sowa has an easter egg.
Champagne is both sparkling and alcoholic. But
ChatGPT disagrees with John Sowa, since the ontology
of ChatGPT is slightly differently organized. There
is no individual sparkling category, there is a
subcategory among non-alcoholic
which is sparkling, so it doesn’t want
Q: Is champagne a soft drink?
A: No, champagne is not a soft drink. It is a type
of sparkling wine made from specific grape varieties
and produced using a traditional method (méthode champenoise)
in the Champagne region of France. Champagne is an
alcoholic beverage, while soft drinks are non-alcoholic
beverages, typically carbonated and often sweetened,
like sodas or colas.
The John Sowa example ontology is said to have been
data mined, since he writes: “The formal concept analysis
(FCA) techniques belong to the general class of data mining
procedures, which find patterns in a relational database.”
It seems ChatGPT uses other data sources and/or data
mining techniques to get their ontologies.

Post by Mild Shock
Hi,
At least John Sowa is not panicing when
he bashes LLM. Here is another video by him,
Without Ontology LLMs are Clueless by JohnSowa
http://youtu.be/t7wZbbISdyA
One could adopt his stance, including spreading
rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
LLMs do also represent ontologies.
https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/
Q: give me an overview of the beverages
that humans consume
A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
broadly categorized based on their preparation,
1. Water
[...]
2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
a. Hot Beverages
[...]
b. Cold Beverages
[...]
3. Alcoholic Beverages
[...]
4. Functional Beverages
[...]
5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
[...]
6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
[...]
These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
and social interaction.
Woa!
Bye